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The Fire of Freedom by H.W.L. Poonja - Article on H.W.L Poonja - Interview with H.W.L Poonja - Satsang with H.W.L Poonja -
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Article by Nisargadatta Maharaj - Interview with U.G. Krishnamurti - Remembering U.G. Krishnamurti -
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Statements by Ramana Maharshi - Who am I? by Ramana Maharshi - Self Enquiry by Ramana Maharshi -
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Article par Nisargadatta Maharaj - Entretiens avec Ranjit Maharaj - Paroles de Ranjit Maharaj -
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Hommage à H.W.L. Poonja - Dialogue avec Raphael - Entretiens avec U.G. Krishnamurti - Hommage à U.G. Krishnamurti -

AN INTERVIEW WITH CHANDRA SWAMI


t was in the village of Bhuman Shah that Suraj Prakash (Chandra Swami) was born on March 5th, 1930. His mother had a strong spiritual inclination. Right from the beginning, he had a very deep love and attraction for Baba Bhuman Shahji (1687-1747) and he later recognised him as his master. He also had a deep devotion and reverence for another great sage, Baba Shri Chanderji, who was one of the main exponents of the Udasin order.


As a child, Suraj Prakash used to have mystical experiences and visions of various saints unknown to him. He also had clairvoyant powers and knowledge of future events. In 1947, he was initiated into the Udasin order by Mahant Girdhari Dassji and his name was changed to Chandra Prakash. In 1951, he received his B.Sc. in Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics from a college in Dehradun, northern India. In 1952, while studying for a Master's Degree, the urge for God-realisation was so strong that he abandoned his studies and all worldly ties and left for Haridwar. He grew his hair long and started wearing white clothes. He meditated two hours in the early morning and two hours in the evening and read Vedantic scriptures, like books by Swami Ram Tirth and Swami Vivekananda.

While in Haridwar, he met Swami Krishna Dassji, a sage with a rare love for Divine wisdom. Chandra Prakash was so impressed by his purity, simplicity and intense sadhana (spiritual practice) that only after staying with him several days, he asked the swami for the robe of a monk. The swami gave him these clothes and advised him to strictly observe the rules of a monk and follow in the footsteps of Baba Bhuman Shahji. From then on, he was addressed as Chandra Swami.



Chandra Swami

From there, he set out on foot to travel in the Himalayas and have the darshan (spiritual presence) of various saints. Later, he travelled to the northern states of Jammu and Kashmir, where he spent time in solitude, living in caves and small huts. This was a period of intense sadhana dedicated exclusively to God-seeking, which included prayer, breathing exercises, meditation, reading of scriptures and worship. During this period, he had numerous visions of great sages and saints, including Ramana Maharshi, Sri Aurobindo, Guru Nanak Devji and Baba Shri Chanderji.

One day, he had the vision of Rishi Sanat Kumar, who initiated him with a mantra (sacred phrase) and instructed him to recite it with a particular technique for a specific number of times. He devoted more than eight hours every night to the practice of the mantra and gave up all other spiritual exercises. This intense practice ended after three years. He then went back to his sadhana, and he again started having visions of various sages. Then, gradually all of this stopped. Everything was replaced by an ever expanding joy which filled his being more and more. Finally, the immutable, eternal Atman was realised as his essential nature and true Being. He was 29 years old at the time. In 1961, he left Kashmir and went to live near Haridwar. He built several huts along the Ganges, in a forest nearby the town. Over the next four years, his realisation of the Self expanded to include the whole manifestation. Finally, he had the ultimate and integral realisation of the Divine at the age of 35.

He spent half of the year in complete silence and isolation, and during the other half, he made himself available for darshan and satsang for one hour in the afternoons. Many seekers came to him for spiritual guidance. In 1970, at the request of his devotees, he moved to Sewak-Niwas, a small ashram constructed for him by his disciples in Haridwar. In the late 1980's, the area around Sewak-Niwas was becoming too crowded and commercialised, so in 1990 the ashram was shifted to Sadhana Kendra Ashram in the remote Himalayan foothills near Dehradun, along the banks of the Yamuna river.




Chandra Swami visited France during the summer of 1998. A seven day retreat was organised by his French devotees at a Center near Lyon, and around 220 - 250 people attended. For the last 13 years, Chandra Swami has been in complete silence. During the retreat, he gave written responses to all questions that were asked. A very close devotee of his, Yvan Amar, translated Swamiji's English written responses into French for the public.

Part of Swamiji's daily routine is to go for a walk after morning meditation and before breakfast. On the first day of the retreat, we all set off on schedule at 6:00 A.M. Everybody was walking as fast as they could to keep up with Swamiji's very brisk pace. He took everyone all over the beautiful surrounding fields, hills and forests for almost three hours! The next few days, he must have been reminded that breakfast was to be served at 6:45 A.M. at the Center. Thus, for the remainder of the time, morning walks took place in the nearby woods, in a circle.




Question : What is the role of the Guru in the life of a seeker and need the Guru be in physical form?

Chandra Swami : The role of the Guru in the life of a Seeker is to bring the Seeker face to face to his / her essential nature, face to face to his / her divinity. Is the Seeker in a physical form or not? If the Seeker is in a physical form, he or she does need a Guru in the physical form.

Q : When you think of yourself, or when you say 'I', what concept do you have of yourself? What does this 'I' refer to?

CS : I don't think of myself. I don't need to think of myself. You think of yourself till you have not seen yourself directly. When I say 'I' , the word 'I' is not used as a concept. I use the word 'I' according to the given situation or a context. When the context is the physical body, I use 'I' for the physical body. When the context is the soul, I use the word 'I' for a soul. And when the context is the spirit, the pure consciousness, I use the word for the infinite, timeless consciousness.

Q : Why did you decide or choose to go into silence? Does silence have a role in your teaching?

CS : I started observing silence about 45 years ago. I wanted to listen to the voice of God. When you want to listen you have to be silent. Then slowly and gradually I was taken up by the silence. I fell in love with silence. The silence is motiveless. The more you become motiveless, the more you are drawn into silence. Silence implies desirelessness. Silence implies the choiceless awareness. It implies the emptiness and fullness at the same time. It is the source of all that exists. Silence has no role at all.

Q : Several days ago, you gave the following answer to someone : "The seeker of God must call the Divine to realise Him." What do you mean by 'call'? What is the difference between the seeker and the Divine?

CS : A child is playing with the toys, playing and playing. But a time comes when the child throws away the toys and calls the Mother. It cannot forget its Mother all the time. The seeker calls the Divine as a child calls its Mother. When that call is sincere and deepest, the Mother comes to the child and takes it in her lap. The Seeker of God is not satisfied with the definitions of God. She / He wants to realise God, immediately and directly. That inmost urge of the Seeker to realise the Divine is what is called the call. It can express itself in so many forms. Essentially there is no difference between the Seeker and the Divine. You don't seek which is not in conformity with you. The Seeker is seeking itself. The Seeker is the traveller and the Seeker is the Destination.

Q : Just before we came to se you, a friend was going through a crisis. Intellectually, she knew she should surrender and let things be, but her emotions were going in another direction and prevented her from letting go. So, the question is : how to reconciliate reason and emotions / feelings?

CS : You can reconciliate reason and emotions when you are above them. So long as you are identified with reason or identified with emotion, you cannot reconcile them. The intellect is only a part of your personality. And any understanding which is confined only to the intellect does not transform the life of a person. All the parts of the personality have to be purified and enlightened. And it needs an integral approach of Sadhana, in which all the parts of personality are touched. The integral approach includes meditation, devotion, prayer, reflection, selfless service and some breathing exercises.

Q : What does it mean to live the Truth? Does one need to qualify oneself in any manner to realise the Truth? Are there external regulations that need to be observed?

CS : To live the Truth is only possible after the realisation of the Truth. To live the Truth there must be integrity and consistency in your words, actions, thoughts and in intuition. Yes, there are qualifications for realising the Truth. To sum up, it can be said that only a person whose mind is silent and whose heart is pure and full of selfless love can realise the Truth. But to make the mind silent and the heart pure one has to undertake some path of sadhana which suits one's temperament and which one has the capacity to follow. The body, the mind, the reason, the heart, the vital energy - all these have to be tamed. You may read the book, 'The Practical Approach to Divinity' or some other book to know the external and internal discipline which is needed to realise the Truth.

Q : What are the main obstructions to living the Truth?

CS : The main obstacles in the path of realisation of the Truth and to living the Truth are attachment and the ego.

Q : What is meditation? Is it a technique to accomplish something? If so what?

CS : Meditation can be described as an art of seeing without the interference of one's conditioned mind. Many methods are used to develop such seeing. This seeing enables the Seeker of Truth to see the Truth as it is in itself, to realise the essential nature of Consciousness which is divine, infinite and unconditioned by time, space and causality. Through meditation one does not accomplish anything new. Through meditation one only discovers one's essential Being, one's essential and true center.

Q : What do you see when you look at us? And the world?

CS : When I look at the world, I feel it as the Divine playing the game of hide and seek with Himself. When I see you, I see the Divine playing the role of a correspondent of a magazine.


- Meeting Ranjit Maharaj - Interview with Ranjit Maharaj - Satsang with Ranjit Maharaj - Interview with Chandra Swami - Interview with Raphael -
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The Fire of Freedom by H.W.L. Poonja - Article on H.W.L Poonja - Interview with H.W.L Poonja - Satsang with H.W.L Poonja -
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Article by Nisargadatta Maharaj - Interview with U.G. Krishnamurti - Remembering U.G. Krishnamurti -
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Statements by Ramana Maharshi  - Who am I? by Ramana Maharshi - Self Enquiry by Ramana Maharshi -
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Article par Nisargadatta Maharaj - Entretiens avec Ranjit Maharaj - Paroles de Ranjit Maharaj -
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Hommage à H.W.L. Poonja - Dialogue avec Raphael - Entretiens avec U.G. Krishnamurti - Hommage à U.G. Krishnamurti -

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